The status of GW servers and their LAG - Guild Wars Forums

Aun · Jan 24, 2007, 08:46 PM // 20:46

I have almost constant lag on GW. Now just to clear out all the stupid answers like "are you downloading while playing" I am gonna say that I have experience with routers and I've had computer communications class etc.

I got a DL-604 or 614 whatever can't remember router that is configured on ports 80 and 6112 (the ones gw use). I don't have it's firewall enabled and while playing my f-secure is totally shutdown. Still I spike up to 2K ping and I always have the orange connection button while playing sometimes it's green but still lags.

My lag involves, running only to find out that I wasn't actually running I was stuck behind some F***** wall all the time. Or in pvp being stuck in a slow ward and being bodyblocked while running relic, and I think I got out but I didn't. Teleportation lag, using skills and they don't come up until 1 sec later or even 2. Common stuff and it's pissing me off I already had an incident with suppor where it took them 3 months to help me get my password back. 1 month of talking then 2 months of waiting without a single response. I am seriousyl getting pissed at playing this game with the support I got (had already bought all 3 campaigns again when they responded to me and got some lame guildwars cap for it).

My internet provider has me clocked at 90% of what my speed should be 10/10 up and down fiberoptics.

So it can be that my ISp routs to GW servers in a crappy way or GW routs to various providers or routers in a crap way or the server just plain out lags like shit but that's obvious cause everyone has high ping that I know but they don't experience the amount of lag that I do.

So any suggestions except try and change ISp which is a longshot for a game that's giving me so much BS.

Star Naiad · Jan 24, 2007, 09:02 PM // 21:02

Is your actual computer fast enough? You have all the settings maxed out in the game? Try the game with low settings if it still exists, is there a way to contact Anet tech?

Aun · Jan 24, 2007, 09:44 PM // 21:44

3.2 GHZ
2 GIG DDR2 RAM
Nvidia GeForce 7600 GT 256 MB RAM
500 GB harddrive
Reinstalled not even a month ago

Besides teleportation lag doesn't occur from computer problems, freeze and low FPs does.

the_jos · Jan 24, 2007, 09:46 PM // 21:46

Orange button most of the time does indicate some kind of network problem.
I'd look at background processes that could generate high network utilisation.
Since you indicate you know about networking, you could try the tools from Sysinternals.com (now part of Microsoft).

I don't think routing at your provider should cause that much problems.

What does a trace route to the server you are connected to (in my case 206.127.147.164) tell you?

Yanman.be · Jan 24, 2007, 09:59 PM // 21:59

That bodyblocking thing is called rubberbanding. Doesn't have anything to do with actual lag, because it happens to me, and I rarely lag( I have a crappy fps, but that's just my pc ).

Tagon · Jan 24, 2007, 10:22 PM // 22:22

I was getting really bad lag myself for awhile. Shortly after Anet added the ISP on loading screens I did the trace route and found a spot between me an the server that would drag me down. Reported it to my ISP and I no longer go through that hud. Lag solved. Most lag is not cause by GW but something to do with the commnications between you and them.

Aun · Jan 24, 2007, 11:58 PM // 23:58

Quote:

Originally Posted by the_jos

Orange button most of the time does indicate some kind of network problem.
I'd look at background processes that could generate high network utilisation.
Since you indicate you know about networking, you could try the tools from Sysinternals.com (now part of Microsoft).

I don't think routing at your provider should cause that much problems.

What does a trace route to the server you are connected to (in my case 206.127.147.164) tell you?

Bahnhof.se is my internet provider, when the server address was diff I would get <50 ms up until tiscali.net where it would go up to 130 then timeout. Now it's a bit diff.

Antheus · Jan 25, 2007, 02:18 AM // 02:18

Packet loss might be one reason.

I've been having severe lag issues during the weekend, caused by ISP messing around, which resulted in moderate (10-20%) packet loss.

While that's not enough to drop the TCP connection, it will give you random lag spikes.

A better indication than just tracert would be pathping.

Stockholm · Jan 25, 2007, 02:32 AM // 02:32

Try running the diagnostic.

Go to "Run" on the start menu and type

"C:\Program Files \Guild Wars\Gw.exe" -diag

this will give you a textfile with all the info you need to trace the problem.

Coloneh · Jan 25, 2007, 02:44 AM // 02:44

having a few thousand as a ping in gw doesn't mean your lagging. if your an fps player you should be used to pinging between like 20 and 60, but GW does not require that fast of a server/client reaction, everyone's ping is really high. i ping around 40 on q3 servers, but in gw my ping is always above 2000 and thats not bad for an RPG. I havent had any lag since a few months before nightfall

Antheus · Jan 25, 2007, 02:51 AM // 02:51

Quote:

Originally Posted by Coloneh

having a few thousand as a ping in gw doesn't mean your lagging. if your an fps player you should be used to pinging between like 20 and 60, but GW does not require that fast of a server/client reaction, everyone's ping is really high. i ping around 40 on q3 servers, but in gw my ping is always above 2000 and thats not bad for an RPG. I havent had any lag since a few months before nightfall

2000ms ping is horrible and abominable for any and all MMOs, with exception of SecondLife.

For one, GW requires 250ms or lower ping, or you are unable to use interrupts or similar skills, not to mention healing and protection. This is also what the color coding shows (green, orange, red). For time sensitive actions like interrupts, you'll need green.

2000 ping means each action you perform is delayed by 1 second, and you respond to everything 1 second too late. So if you see a foe casting a spell, and you hit an interrupt, this interrupt will register one second after you hit the button, and you won't know of the result 1 further second after that.

Aun · Jan 25, 2007, 04:18 AM // 04:18

Quote:

Originally Posted by Coloneh

having a few thousand as a ping in gw doesn't mean your lagging. if your an fps player you should be used to pinging between like 20 and 60, but GW does not require that fast of a server/client reaction, everyone's ping is really high. i ping around 40 on q3 servers, but in gw my ping is always above 2000 and thats not bad for an RPG. I havent had any lag since a few months before nightfall

If you don't know what you are talking about please don't talk at all.

Aun · Jan 25, 2007, 04:31 AM // 04:31

I did that diagnostic as suggested and thank you very much it did help. I can see several problems with routing but my experience in networking is still limited I am going to post the network writing here if anyone can give me a clear explanation of the problem and a possible solution..

Here is the following text for the patient one.
:
================================================== ============================
= Tracing network paths
================================================== ============================
*--> pathping -4 -q 4 -w 700 216.107.246.36 <--*

Sp†rar v„g till 216-107-246-36.plaync.com [216.107.246.36] (tracing path to..)
”ver h”gst 30 hopp: (over no more than 30 jumps)
0 tobias.bahnhofbredband.se [192.168.0.103]
1 192.168.0.1
2 10.49.0.1
3 172.30.0.69
4 h-190-57.A182.cust.bahnhof.se [81.170.190.57]
5 stortorget-mmo.c7600-limhamn.bahnhof.net [85.24.151.29]
6 82.96.55.41
7 v808.the-cr1-r71.lnd.uk.p80.net [82.96.8.71]
8 cr02.ldn01.pccwbtn.net [195.66.224.167]
9 ncsoft.ge5-11.br01.lax05.pccwbtn.net [63.218.73.2]
10 216-107-255-70.plaync.com [216.107.255.70]
11 216-107-246-36.plaync.com [216.107.246.36]

Statistik f”r 11 sekunder ber„knas... (statistics for 11 seconds being calculated)

K„lla hit Denna nod/l„nk
Hopp (jump) Tid (time) f”rl/skic= (lost/sent) % f”rl/skic= % Adress
0 tobias.bahnhofbredband.se [192.168.0.103]
0/ 4 = 0 % |
1 0 ms 0/ 4 = 0 % 0/ 4 = 0 % 192.168.0.1
0/ 4 = 0 % |
2 --- 4/ 4 =100 % 4/ 4 =100 % 10.49.0.1
0/ 4 = 0 % |
3 --- 4/ 4 =100 % 4/ 4 =100 % 172.30.0.69
0/ 4 = 0 % |
4 1 ms 0/ 4 = 0 % 0/ 4 = 0 % h-190-57.A182.cust.bahnhof.se [81.170.190.57]
0/ 4 = 0 % |
5 1 ms 0/ 4 = 0 % 0/ 4 = 0 % stortorget-mmo.c7600-limhamn.bahnhof.net [85.24.151.29]
0/ 4 = 0 % |
6 9 ms 0/ 4 = 0 % 0/ 4 = 0 % 82.96.55.41
0/ 4 = 0 % |
7 --- 4/ 4 =100 % 4/ 4 =100 % v808.the-cr1-r71.lnd.uk.p80.net [82.96.8.71]
0/ 4 = 0 % |
8 --- 4/ 4 =100 % 4/ 4 =100 % cr02.ldn01.pccwbtn.net [195.66.224.167]
0/ 4 = 0 % |
9 --- 4/ 4 =100 % 4/ 4 =100 % ncsoft.ge5-11.br01.lax05.pccwbtn.net [63.218.73.2]
0/ 4 = 0 % |
10 --- 4/ 4 =100 % 4/ 4 =100 % 216-107-255-70.plaync.com [216.107.255.70]
0/ 4 = 0 % |
11 185 ms 0/ 4 = 0 % 0/ 4 = 0 % 216-107-246-36.plaync.com [216.107.246.36]

Sp†rning utf”rd. (trace complete)
*--> pathping -4 -q 4 -w 700 202.80.110.4 <--*

Sp†rar v„g till 202.80.110.4 ”ver h”gst 30 hopp

0 tobias.bahnhofbredband.se [192.168.0.103]
1 192.168.0.1
2 10.49.0.1
3 172.30.0.69
4 h-190-57.A182.cust.bahnhof.se [81.170.190.57]
5 stortorget-mmo.c7600-limhamn.bahnhof.net [85.24.151.29]
6 82.96.55.41
7 v808.the-cr1-r71.lnd.uk.p80.net [82.96.8.71]
8 195.66.224.177
9 i-11-2.nwk-core01.net.reach.com [202.84.144.141]
10 i-10-0.eig-core01.net.reach.com [202.84.143.89]
11 i-12-0.chi-core01.net.reach.com [202.84.143.85]
12 i-11-0.sjc-core01.net.reach.com [202.84.143.57]
13 i-1-2.tok-core01.net.reach.com [202.84.143.190]
14 i-8-1.nei-core01.net.reach.com [202.84.249.101]
15 unknown.net.reach.com [134.159.130.154]
16 114.89.208.210-gamania [210.208.89.114]
17 202.80.110.4

Statistik f”r 17 sekunder ber„knas...

K„lla hit Denna nod/l„nk
Hopp Tid f”rl/skic= % f”rl/skic= % Adress
0 tobias.bahnhofbredband.se [192.168.0.103]
0/ 4 = 0 % |
1 0 ms 0/ 4 = 0 % 0/ 4 = 0 % 192.168.0.1
0/ 4 = 0 % |
2 --- 4/ 4 =100 % 4/ 4 =100 % 10.49.0.1
0/ 4 = 0 % |
3 --- 4/ 4 =100 % 4/ 4 =100 % 172.30.0.69
0/ 4 = 0 % |
4 1 ms 0/ 4 = 0 % 0/ 4 = 0 % h-190-57.A182.cust.bahnhof.se [81.170.190.57]
0/ 4 = 0 % |
5 1 ms 0/ 4 = 0 % 0/ 4 = 0 % stortorget-mmo.c7600-limhamn.bahnhof.net [85.24.151.29]
0/ 4 = 0 % |
6 9 ms 0/ 4 = 0 % 0/ 4 = 0 % 82.96.55.41
0/ 4 = 0 % |
7 44 ms 0/ 4 = 0 % 0/ 4 = 0 % v808.the-cr1-r71.lnd.uk.p80.net [82.96.8.71]
0/ 4 = 0 % |
8 43 ms 0/ 4 = 0 % 0/ 4 = 0 % 195.66.224.177
0/ 4 = 0 % |
9 107 ms 0/ 4 = 0 % 0/ 4 = 0 % i-11-2.nwk-core01.net.reach.com [202.84.144.141]
0/ 4 = 0 % |
10 108 ms 0/ 4 = 0 % 0/ 4 = 0 % i-10-0.eig-core01.net.reach.com [202.84.143.89]
0/ 4 = 0 % |
11 140 ms 0/ 4 = 0 % 0/ 4 = 0 % i-12-0.chi-core01.net.reach.com [202.84.143.85]
0/ 4 = 0 % |
12 192 ms 0/ 4 = 0 % 0/ 4 = 0 % i-11-0.sjc-core01.net.reach.com [202.84.143.57]
0/ 4 = 0 % |
13 305 ms 0/ 4 = 0 % 0/ 4 = 0 % i-1-2.tok-core01.net.reach.com [202.84.143.190]
0/ 4 = 0 % |
14 361 ms 0/ 4 = 0 % 0/ 4 = 0 % i-8-1.nei-core01.net.reach.com [202.84.249.101]
0/ 4 = 0 % |
15 --- 4/ 4 =100 % 4/ 4 =100 % unknown.net.reach.com [134.159.130.154]
0/ 4 = 0 % |
16 335 ms 0/ 4 = 0 % 0/ 4 = 0 % 114.89.208.210-gamania [210.208.89.114]
0/ 4 = 0 % |
17 348 ms 0/ 4 = 0 % 0/ 4 = 0 % 202.80.110.4

Sp†rning utf”rd.
*--> pathping -4 -q 4 -w 700 206.127.145.228 <--*

Sp†rar v„g till 206-127-145-228.plaync.com [206.127.145.228]
”ver h”gst 30 hopp:
0 tobias.bahnhofbredband.se [192.168.0.103]
1 192.168.0.1
2 10.49.0.1
3 172.30.0.69
4 h-190-57.A182.cust.bahnhof.se [81.170.190.57]
5 stortorget-mmo.c7600-limhamn.bahnhof.net [85.24.151.29]
6 limhamn-mmo.c6509-tule.bahnhof.net [85.24.151.118]
7 ge-3-0-0.ar1.ARN1.gblx.net [207.138.144.189]
8 so1-0-0-2488M.ar1.ARN2.gblx.net [67.17.74.189]
9 so-3-1-0.stk30.ip.tiscali.net [213.200.72.53]
10 * so-0-1-0.fra40.ip.tiscali.net [213.200.82.213]
11 62.67.33.218
12 206-127-156-82.plaync.com [206.127.156.82]
13 206-127-145-228.plaync.com [206.127.145.228]

Statistik f”r 13 sekunder ber„knas...

K„lla hit Denna nod/l„nk
Hopp Tid f”rl/skic= % f”rl/skic= % Adress
0 tobias.bahnhofbredband.se [192.168.0.103]
0/ 4 = 0 % |
1 0 ms 0/ 4 = 0 % 0/ 4 = 0 % 192.168.0.1
0/ 4 = 0 % |
2 --- 4/ 4 =100 % 4/ 4 =100 % 10.49.0.1
0/ 4 = 0 % |
3 --- 4/ 4 =100 % 4/ 4 =100 % 172.30.0.69
0/ 4 = 0 % |
4 1 ms 0/ 4 = 0 % 0/ 4 = 0 % h-190-57.A182.cust.bahnhof.se [81.170.190.57]
0/ 4 = 0 % |
5 1 ms 0/ 4 = 0 % 0/ 4 = 0 % stortorget-mmo.c7600-limhamn.bahnhof.net [85.24.151.29]
0/ 4 = 0 % |
6 11 ms 0/ 4 = 0 % 0/ 4 = 0 % limhamn-mmo.c6509-tule.bahnhof.net [85.24.151.118]
0/ 4 = 0 % |
7 9 ms 0/ 4 = 0 % 0/ 4 = 0 % ge-3-0-0.ar1.ARN1.gblx.net [207.138.144.189]
0/ 4 = 0 % |
8 10 ms 0/ 4 = 0 % 0/ 4 = 0 % so1-0-0-2488M.ar1.ARN2.gblx.net [67.17.74.189]
0/ 4 = 0 % |
9 112 ms 0/ 4 = 0 % 0/ 4 = 0 % so-3-1-0.stk30.ip.tiscali.net [213.200.72.53]
0/ 4 = 0 % |
10 --- 4/ 4 =100 % 4/ 4 =100 % so-0-1-0.fra40.ip.tiscali.net [213.200.82.213]
0/ 4 = 0 % |
11 --- 4/ 4 =100 % 4/ 4 =100 % 62.67.33.218
0/ 4 = 0 % |
12 --- 4/ 4 =100 % 4/ 4 =100 % 206-127-156-82.plaync.com [206.127.156.82]
0/ 4 = 0 % |
13 40 ms 0/ 4 = 0 % 0/ 4 = 0 % 206-127-145-228.plaync.com [206.127.145.228]

Sp†rning utf”rd.
*--> pathping -4 -q 4 -w 700 222.231.14.228 <--*

Sp†rar v„g till 222.231.14.228 ”ver h”gst 30 hopp

0 tobias.bahnhofbredband.se [192.168.0.103]
1 192.168.0.1
2 10.49.0.1
3 172.30.0.69
4 h-190-57.A182.cust.bahnhof.se [81.170.190.57]
5 stortorget-mmo.c7600-limhamn.bahnhof.net [85.24.151.29]
6 limhamn-mmo.c6509-tule.bahnhof.net [85.24.151.118]
7 ge-3-0-0.ar1.ARN1.gblx.net [207.138.144.189]
8 so6-0-0-2488M.ar2.PAO2.gblx.net [67.17.93.90]
9 dacom-1.ar2.PAO2.gblx.net [208.50.13.10]
10 203.255.234.41
11 203.255.234.121
12 61.33.1.66
13 211.233.88.156
14 211.233.88.18
15 211.233.60.58
16 * * *
Statistik f”r 16 sekunder ber„knas...

K„lla hit Denna nod/l„nk
Hopp Tid f”rl/skic= % f”rl/skic= % Adress
0 tobias.bahnhofbredband.se [192.168.0.103]
0/ 4 = 0 % |
1 0 ms 0/ 4 = 0 % 0/ 4 = 0 % 192.168.0.1
0/ 4 = 0 % |
2 --- 4/ 4 =100 % 4/ 4 =100 % 10.49.0.1
0/ 4 = 0 % |
3 --- 4/ 4 =100 % 4/ 4 =100 % 172.30.0.69
0/ 4 = 0 % |
4 1 ms 0/ 4 = 0 % 0/ 4 = 0 % h-190-57.A182.cust.bahnhof.se [81.170.190.57]
0/ 4 = 0 % |
5 1 ms 0/ 4 = 0 % 0/ 4 = 0 % stortorget-mmo.c7600-limhamn.bahnhof.net [85.24.151.29]
0/ 4 = 0 % |
6 9 ms 0/ 4 = 0 % 0/ 4 = 0 % limhamn-mmo.c6509-tule.bahnhof.net [85.24.151.118]
0/ 4 = 0 % |
7 9 ms 0/ 4 = 0 % 0/ 4 = 0 % ge-3-0-0.ar1.ARN1.gblx.net [207.138.144.189]
0/ 4 = 0 % |
8 184 ms 0/ 4 = 0 % 0/ 4 = 0 % so6-0-0-2488M.ar2.PAO2.gblx.net [67.17.93.90]
0/ 4 = 0 % |
9 180 ms 0/ 4 = 0 % 0/ 4 = 0 % dacom-1.ar2.PAO2.gblx.net [208.50.13.10]
0/ 4 = 0 % |
10 180 ms 0/ 4 = 0 % 0/ 4 = 0 % 203.255.234.41
0/ 4 = 0 % |
11 318 ms 0/ 4 = 0 % 0/ 4 = 0 % 203.255.234.121
0/ 4 = 0 % |
12 318 ms 0/ 4 = 0 % 0/ 4 = 0 % 61.33.1.66
0/ 4 = 0 % |
13 328 ms 0/ 4 = 0 % 0/ 4 = 0 % 211.233.88.156
0/ 4 = 0 % |
14 321 ms 0/ 4 = 0 % 0/ 4 = 0 % 211.233.88.18
0/ 4 = 0 % |
15 326 ms 0/ 4 = 0 % 0/ 4 = 0 % 211.233.60.58
4/ 4 =100 % |
16 --- 4/ 4 =100 % 0/ 4 = 0 % tobias [0.0.0.0]

Sp†rning utf”rd.
Completed in 82.02 seconds

Hockster · Jan 25, 2007, 06:58 AM // 06:58

No one here can really do anythng about it. Send the reports to Anet so they can contact thier providers and hopefully fix the problems.

Tetris L · Jan 25, 2007, 08:43 AM // 08:43

Try a tool like PingPlotter or NeoTrace to trace/ping the GW servers over a longer period of time. Then when you get such a 2000 ms spike you can see where exactly the connection is choking.

Hockster · Jan 25, 2007, 09:24 AM // 09:24

Anets servers won't respond to pings or tracerts. They will only reply to the ingame diagnostic tool.

taffette · Jan 25, 2007, 09:29 AM // 09:29

I've had really bad problems over the past few days which has resulted in wiping from the UW a couple of times amongst other gripes. I don't normally experience lag, this is new. Maybe Anet have something else kicking off?

Tyggen · Jan 25, 2007, 10:04 AM // 10:04

I've had a constant 500+ ping the past couple of weeks, friend of mine has constant 2000+ spikes (almost one per minute), please post if you find a solution to this.

Hockster · Jan 25, 2007, 11:38 AM // 11:38

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tyggen

I've had a constant 500+ ping the past couple of weeks, friend of mine has constant 2000+ spikes (almost one per minute), please post if you find a solution to this.

Have you done *any* investigation of the problem yourself? Run the diagnostic tool and see where the problem is. Most often the problem is in the routing somewhere, not with Anets servers. The least you could do is try to find out where the issue is rather than make a blanket assumption and expect someone else to do all the work for you.

the_jos · Jan 25, 2007, 12:04 PM // 12:04

Aun,

Could be a routing problem, i'm not 100% sure about this though.
You see a large spike in time after the 82.96.55.41 address in the first two traces.
On the second it's 207.138.144.189.

Perhaps that's something you could ask your ISP to check (send them the logs too).

Jan 24, 2007, 08:46 PM // 20:46	#1
Aun Banned Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Sweden Guild: Its Gi [Joe] Profession: N/	The status of GW servers and their LAG I have almost constant lag on GW. Now just to clear out all the stupid answers like "are you downloading while playing" I am gonna say that I have experience with routers and I've had computer communications class etc. I got a DL-604 or 614 whatever can't remember router that is configured on ports 80 and 6112 (the ones gw use). I don't have it's firewall enabled and while playing my f-secure is totally shutdown. Still I spike up to 2K ping and I always have the orange connection button while playing sometimes it's green but still lags. My lag involves, running only to find out that I wasn't actually running I was stuck behind some F***** wall all the time. Or in pvp being stuck in a slow ward and being bodyblocked while running relic, and I think I got out but I didn't. Teleportation lag, using skills and they don't come up until 1 sec later or even 2. Common stuff and it's pissing me off I already had an incident with suppor where it took them 3 months to help me get my password back. 1 month of talking then 2 months of waiting without a single response. I am seriousyl getting pissed at playing this game with the support I got (had already bought all 3 campaigns again when they responded to me and got some lame guildwars cap for it). My internet provider has me clocked at 90% of what my speed should be 10/10 up and down fiberoptics. So it can be that my ISp routs to GW servers in a crappy way or GW routs to various providers or routers in a crap way or the server just plain out lags like shit but that's obvious cause everyone has high ping that I know but they don't experience the amount of lag that I do. So any suggestions except try and change ISp which is a longshot for a game that's giving me so much BS.

Jan 25, 2007, 04:31 AM // 04:31	#13
Aun Banned Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Sweden Guild: Its Gi [Joe] Profession: N/	I did that diagnostic as suggested and thank you very much it did help. I can see several problems with routing but my experience in networking is still limited I am going to post the network writing here if anyone can give me a clear explanation of the problem and a possible solution.. Here is the following text for the patient one. : ================================================== ============================ = Tracing network paths ================================================== ============================ --> pathping -4 -q 4 -w 700 216.107.246.36 <-- Sp†rar v„g till 216-107-246-36.plaync.com [216.107.246.36] (tracing path to..) ”ver h”gst 30 hopp: (over no more than 30 jumps) 0 tobias.bahnhofbredband.se [192.168.0.103] 1 192.168.0.1 2 10.49.0.1 3 172.30.0.69 4 h-190-57.A182.cust.bahnhof.se [81.170.190.57] 5 stortorget-mmo.c7600-limhamn.bahnhof.net [85.24.151.29] 6 82.96.55.41 7 v808.the-cr1-r71.lnd.uk.p80.net [82.96.8.71] 8 cr02.ldn01.pccwbtn.net [195.66.224.167] 9 ncsoft.ge5-11.br01.lax05.pccwbtn.net [63.218.73.2] 10 216-107-255-70.plaync.com [216.107.255.70] 11 216-107-246-36.plaync.com [216.107.246.36] Statistik f”r 11 sekunder ber„knas... (statistics for 11 seconds being calculated) K„lla hit Denna nod/l„nk Hopp (jump) Tid (time) f”rl/skic= (lost/sent) % f”rl/skic= % Adress 0 tobias.bahnhofbredband.se [192.168.0.103] 0/ 4 = 0 % \| 1 0 ms 0/ 4 = 0 % 0/ 4 = 0 % 192.168.0.1 0/ 4 = 0 % \| 2 --- 4/ 4 =100 % 4/ 4 =100 % 10.49.0.1 0/ 4 = 0 % \| 3 --- 4/ 4 =100 % 4/ 4 =100 % 172.30.0.69 0/ 4 = 0 % \| 4 1 ms 0/ 4 = 0 % 0/ 4 = 0 % h-190-57.A182.cust.bahnhof.se [81.170.190.57] 0/ 4 = 0 % \| 5 1 ms 0/ 4 = 0 % 0/ 4 = 0 % stortorget-mmo.c7600-limhamn.bahnhof.net [85.24.151.29] 0/ 4 = 0 % \| 6 9 ms 0/ 4 = 0 % 0/ 4 = 0 % 82.96.55.41 0/ 4 = 0 % \| 7 --- 4/ 4 =100 % 4/ 4 =100 % v808.the-cr1-r71.lnd.uk.p80.net [82.96.8.71] 0/ 4 = 0 % \| 8 --- 4/ 4 =100 % 4/ 4 =100 % cr02.ldn01.pccwbtn.net [195.66.224.167] 0/ 4 = 0 % \| 9 --- 4/ 4 =100 % 4/ 4 =100 % ncsoft.ge5-11.br01.lax05.pccwbtn.net [63.218.73.2] 0/ 4 = 0 % \| 10 --- 4/ 4 =100 % 4/ 4 =100 % 216-107-255-70.plaync.com [216.107.255.70] 0/ 4 = 0 % \| 11 185 ms 0/ 4 = 0 % 0/ 4 = 0 % 216-107-246-36.plaync.com [216.107.246.36] Sp†rning utf”rd. (trace complete) --> pathping -4 -q 4 -w 700 202.80.110.4 <-- Sp†rar v„g till 202.80.110.4 ”ver h”gst 30 hopp 0 tobias.bahnhofbredband.se [192.168.0.103] 1 192.168.0.1 2 10.49.0.1 3 172.30.0.69 4 h-190-57.A182.cust.bahnhof.se [81.170.190.57] 5 stortorget-mmo.c7600-limhamn.bahnhof.net [85.24.151.29] 6 82.96.55.41 7 v808.the-cr1-r71.lnd.uk.p80.net [82.96.8.71] 8 195.66.224.177 9 i-11-2.nwk-core01.net.reach.com [202.84.144.141] 10 i-10-0.eig-core01.net.reach.com [202.84.143.89] 11 i-12-0.chi-core01.net.reach.com [202.84.143.85] 12 i-11-0.sjc-core01.net.reach.com [202.84.143.57] 13 i-1-2.tok-core01.net.reach.com [202.84.143.190] 14 i-8-1.nei-core01.net.reach.com [202.84.249.101] 15 unknown.net.reach.com [134.159.130.154] 16 114.89.208.210-gamania [210.208.89.114] 17 202.80.110.4 Statistik f”r 17 sekunder ber„knas... K„lla hit Denna nod/l„nk Hopp Tid f”rl/skic= % f”rl/skic= % Adress 0 tobias.bahnhofbredband.se [192.168.0.103] 0/ 4 = 0 % \| 1 0 ms 0/ 4 = 0 % 0/ 4 = 0 % 192.168.0.1 0/ 4 = 0 % \| 2 --- 4/ 4 =100 % 4/ 4 =100 % 10.49.0.1 0/ 4 = 0 % \| 3 --- 4/ 4 =100 % 4/ 4 =100 % 172.30.0.69 0/ 4 = 0 % \| 4 1 ms 0/ 4 = 0 % 0/ 4 = 0 % h-190-57.A182.cust.bahnhof.se [81.170.190.57] 0/ 4 = 0 % \| 5 1 ms 0/ 4 = 0 % 0/ 4 = 0 % stortorget-mmo.c7600-limhamn.bahnhof.net [85.24.151.29] 0/ 4 = 0 % \| 6 9 ms 0/ 4 = 0 % 0/ 4 = 0 % 82.96.55.41 0/ 4 = 0 % \| 7 44 ms 0/ 4 = 0 % 0/ 4 = 0 % v808.the-cr1-r71.lnd.uk.p80.net [82.96.8.71] 0/ 4 = 0 % \| 8 43 ms 0/ 4 = 0 % 0/ 4 = 0 % 195.66.224.177 0/ 4 = 0 % \| 9 107 ms 0/ 4 = 0 % 0/ 4 = 0 % i-11-2.nwk-core01.net.reach.com [202.84.144.141] 0/ 4 = 0 % \| 10 108 ms 0/ 4 = 0 % 0/ 4 = 0 % i-10-0.eig-core01.net.reach.com [202.84.143.89] 0/ 4 = 0 % \| 11 140 ms 0/ 4 = 0 % 0/ 4 = 0 % i-12-0.chi-core01.net.reach.com [202.84.143.85] 0/ 4 = 0 % \| 12 192 ms 0/ 4 = 0 % 0/ 4 = 0 % i-11-0.sjc-core01.net.reach.com [202.84.143.57] 0/ 4 = 0 % \| 13 305 ms 0/ 4 = 0 % 0/ 4 = 0 % i-1-2.tok-core01.net.reach.com [202.84.143.190] 0/ 4 = 0 % \| 14 361 ms 0/ 4 = 0 % 0/ 4 = 0 % i-8-1.nei-core01.net.reach.com [202.84.249.101] 0/ 4 = 0 % \| 15 --- 4/ 4 =100 % 4/ 4 =100 % unknown.net.reach.com [134.159.130.154] 0/ 4 = 0 % \| 16 335 ms 0/ 4 = 0 % 0/ 4 = 0 % 114.89.208.210-gamania [210.208.89.114] 0/ 4 = 0 % \| 17 348 ms 0/ 4 = 0 % 0/ 4 = 0 % 202.80.110.4 Sp†rning utf”rd. --> pathping -4 -q 4 -w 700 206.127.145.228 <-- Sp†rar v„g till 206-127-145-228.plaync.com [206.127.145.228] ”ver h”gst 30 hopp: 0 tobias.bahnhofbredband.se [192.168.0.103] 1 192.168.0.1 2 10.49.0.1 3 172.30.0.69 4 h-190-57.A182.cust.bahnhof.se [81.170.190.57] 5 stortorget-mmo.c7600-limhamn.bahnhof.net [85.24.151.29] 6 limhamn-mmo.c6509-tule.bahnhof.net [85.24.151.118] 7 ge-3-0-0.ar1.ARN1.gblx.net [207.138.144.189] 8 so1-0-0-2488M.ar1.ARN2.gblx.net [67.17.74.189] 9 so-3-1-0.stk30.ip.tiscali.net [213.200.72.53] 10 * so-0-1-0.fra40.ip.tiscali.net [213.200.82.213] 11 62.67.33.218 12 206-127-156-82.plaync.com [206.127.156.82] 13 206-127-145-228.plaync.com [206.127.145.228] Statistik f”r 13 sekunder ber„knas... K„lla hit Denna nod/l„nk Hopp Tid f”rl/skic= % f”rl/skic= % Adress 0 tobias.bahnhofbredband.se [192.168.0.103] 0/ 4 = 0 % \| 1 0 ms 0/ 4 = 0 % 0/ 4 = 0 % 192.168.0.1 0/ 4 = 0 % \| 2 --- 4/ 4 =100 % 4/ 4 =100 % 10.49.0.1 0/ 4 = 0 % \| 3 --- 4/ 4 =100 % 4/ 4 =100 % 172.30.0.69 0/ 4 = 0 % \| 4 1 ms 0/ 4 = 0 % 0/ 4 = 0 % h-190-57.A182.cust.bahnhof.se [81.170.190.57] 0/ 4 = 0 % \| 5 1 ms 0/ 4 = 0 % 0/ 4 = 0 % stortorget-mmo.c7600-limhamn.bahnhof.net [85.24.151.29] 0/ 4 = 0 % \| 6 11 ms 0/ 4 = 0 % 0/ 4 = 0 % limhamn-mmo.c6509-tule.bahnhof.net [85.24.151.118] 0/ 4 = 0 % \| 7 9 ms 0/ 4 = 0 % 0/ 4 = 0 % ge-3-0-0.ar1.ARN1.gblx.net [207.138.144.189] 0/ 4 = 0 % \| 8 10 ms 0/ 4 = 0 % 0/ 4 = 0 % so1-0-0-2488M.ar1.ARN2.gblx.net [67.17.74.189] 0/ 4 = 0 % \| 9 112 ms 0/ 4 = 0 % 0/ 4 = 0 % so-3-1-0.stk30.ip.tiscali.net [213.200.72.53] 0/ 4 = 0 % \| 10 --- 4/ 4 =100 % 4/ 4 =100 % so-0-1-0.fra40.ip.tiscali.net [213.200.82.213] 0/ 4 = 0 % \| 11 --- 4/ 4 =100 % 4/ 4 =100 % 62.67.33.218 0/ 4 = 0 % \| 12 --- 4/ 4 =100 % 4/ 4 =100 % 206-127-156-82.plaync.com [206.127.156.82] 0/ 4 = 0 % \| 13 40 ms 0/ 4 = 0 % 0/ 4 = 0 % 206-127-145-228.plaync.com [206.127.145.228] Sp†rning utf”rd. --> pathping -4 -q 4 -w 700 222.231.14.228 <-- Sp†rar v„g till 222.231.14.228 ”ver h”gst 30 hopp 0 tobias.bahnhofbredband.se [192.168.0.103] 1 192.168.0.1 2 10.49.0.1 3 172.30.0.69 4 h-190-57.A182.cust.bahnhof.se [81.170.190.57] 5 stortorget-mmo.c7600-limhamn.bahnhof.net [85.24.151.29] 6 limhamn-mmo.c6509-tule.bahnhof.net [85.24.151.118] 7 ge-3-0-0.ar1.ARN1.gblx.net [207.138.144.189] 8 so6-0-0-2488M.ar2.PAO2.gblx.net [67.17.93.90] 9 dacom-1.ar2.PAO2.gblx.net [208.50.13.10] 10 203.255.234.41 11 203.255.234.121 12 61.33.1.66 13 211.233.88.156 14 211.233.88.18 15 211.233.60.58 16 * * * Statistik f”r 16 sekunder ber„knas... K„lla hit Denna nod/l„nk Hopp Tid f”rl/skic= % f”rl/skic= % Adress 0 tobias.bahnhofbredband.se [192.168.0.103] 0/ 4 = 0 % \| 1 0 ms 0/ 4 = 0 % 0/ 4 = 0 % 192.168.0.1 0/ 4 = 0 % \| 2 --- 4/ 4 =100 % 4/ 4 =100 % 10.49.0.1 0/ 4 = 0 % \| 3 --- 4/ 4 =100 % 4/ 4 =100 % 172.30.0.69 0/ 4 = 0 % \| 4 1 ms 0/ 4 = 0 % 0/ 4 = 0 % h-190-57.A182.cust.bahnhof.se [81.170.190.57] 0/ 4 = 0 % \| 5 1 ms 0/ 4 = 0 % 0/ 4 = 0 % stortorget-mmo.c7600-limhamn.bahnhof.net [85.24.151.29] 0/ 4 = 0 % \| 6 9 ms 0/ 4 = 0 % 0/ 4 = 0 % limhamn-mmo.c6509-tule.bahnhof.net [85.24.151.118] 0/ 4 = 0 % \| 7 9 ms 0/ 4 = 0 % 0/ 4 = 0 % ge-3-0-0.ar1.ARN1.gblx.net [207.138.144.189] 0/ 4 = 0 % \| 8 184 ms 0/ 4 = 0 % 0/ 4 = 0 % so6-0-0-2488M.ar2.PAO2.gblx.net [67.17.93.90] 0/ 4 = 0 % \| 9 180 ms 0/ 4 = 0 % 0/ 4 = 0 % dacom-1.ar2.PAO2.gblx.net [208.50.13.10] 0/ 4 = 0 % \| 10 180 ms 0/ 4 = 0 % 0/ 4 = 0 % 203.255.234.41 0/ 4 = 0 % \| 11 318 ms 0/ 4 = 0 % 0/ 4 = 0 % 203.255.234.121 0/ 4 = 0 % \| 12 318 ms 0/ 4 = 0 % 0/ 4 = 0 % 61.33.1.66 0/ 4 = 0 % \| 13 328 ms 0/ 4 = 0 % 0/ 4 = 0 % 211.233.88.156 0/ 4 = 0 % \| 14 321 ms 0/ 4 = 0 % 0/ 4 = 0 % 211.233.88.18 0/ 4 = 0 % \| 15 326 ms 0/ 4 = 0 % 0/ 4 = 0 % 211.233.60.58 4/ 4 =100 % \| 16 --- 4/ 4 =100 % 0/ 4 = 0 % tobias [0.0.0.0] Sp†rning utf”rd. Completed in 82.02 seconds Last edited by Aun; Jan 25, 2007 at 04:49 AM // 04:49..

Jan 24, 2007, 09:02 PM // 21:02	#2
Star Naiad Academy Page Join Date: Nov 2006	Is your actual computer fast enough? You have all the settings maxed out in the game? Try the game with low settings if it still exists, is there a way to contact Anet tech?

Jan 24, 2007, 09:44 PM // 21:44	#3
Aun Banned Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Sweden Guild: Its Gi [Joe] Profession: N/	3.2 GHZ 2 GIG DDR2 RAM Nvidia GeForce 7600 GT 256 MB RAM 500 GB harddrive Reinstalled not even a month ago Besides teleportation lag doesn't occur from computer problems, freeze and low FPs does.

Jan 24, 2007, 09:46 PM // 21:46	#4
the_jos Forge Runner Join Date: Jun 2006 Guild: Hard Mode Legion [HML] Profession: N/	Orange button most of the time does indicate some kind of network problem. I'd look at background processes that could generate high network utilisation. Since you indicate you know about networking, you could try the tools from Sysinternals.com (now part of Microsoft). I don't think routing at your provider should cause that much problems. What does a trace route to the server you are connected to (in my case 206.127.147.164) tell you?

Jan 24, 2007, 09:59 PM // 21:59	#5
Yanman.be Banned Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Belgium Guild: [ROSE] Profession: A/	That bodyblocking thing is called rubberbanding. Doesn't have anything to do with actual lag, because it happens to me, and I rarely lag( I have a crappy fps, but that's just my pc ).

Jan 24, 2007, 10:22 PM // 22:22	#6
Tagon Ascalonian Squire Join Date: Sep 2006 Guild: C O T P Profession: R/Mo	I was getting really bad lag myself for awhile. Shortly after Anet added the ISP on loading screens I did the trace route and found a spot between me an the server that would drag me down. Reported it to my ISP and I no longer go through that hud. Lag solved. Most lag is not cause by GW but something to do with the commnications between you and them.

Jan 25, 2007, 02:18 AM // 02:18	#8
Antheus Forge Runner Join Date: Jan 2006	Packet loss might be one reason. I've been having severe lag issues during the weekend, caused by ISP messing around, which resulted in moderate (10-20%) packet loss. While that's not enough to drop the TCP connection, it will give you random lag spikes. A better indication than just tracert would be pathping.

Jan 25, 2007, 02:32 AM // 02:32	#9
Stockholm Desert Nomad Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Censored Guild: Censored Profession: R/	Try running the diagnostic. Go to "Run" on the start menu and type "C:\Program Files \Guild Wars\Gw.exe" -diag this will give you a textfile with all the info you need to trace the problem.

Jan 25, 2007, 02:44 AM // 02:44	#10
Coloneh Furnace Stoker Join Date: Nov 2006 Profession: D/W	having a few thousand as a ping in gw doesn't mean your lagging. if your an fps player you should be used to pinging between like 20 and 60, but GW does not require that fast of a server/client reaction, everyone's ping is really high. i ping around 40 on q3 servers, but in gw my ping is always above 2000 and thats not bad for an RPG. I havent had any lag since a few months before nightfall

Jan 25, 2007, 06:58 AM // 06:58	#14
Hockster Banned Join Date: Jul 2005	No one here can really do anythng about it. Send the reports to Anet so they can contact thier providers and hopefully fix the problems.

Jan 25, 2007, 08:43 AM // 08:43	#15
Tetris L Jungle Guide Join Date: May 2005 Location: Germany Guild: Servants of Fortuna	Try a tool like PingPlotter or NeoTrace to trace/ping the GW servers over a longer period of time. Then when you get such a 2000 ms spike you can see where exactly the connection is choking.

Jan 25, 2007, 09:24 AM // 09:24	#16
Hockster Banned Join Date: Jul 2005	Anets servers won't respond to pings or tracerts. They will only reply to the ingame diagnostic tool.

Jan 25, 2007, 09:29 AM // 09:29	#17
taffette Frost Gate Guardian Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Sunny ol' Manchester Guild: The Trumpet Blowers Profession: R/	I've had really bad problems over the past few days which has resulted in wiping from the UW a couple of times amongst other gripes. I don't normally experience lag, this is new. Maybe Anet have something else kicking off?

Jan 25, 2007, 10:04 AM // 10:04	#18
Tyggen Krytan Explorer Join Date: Jul 2006 Profession: Mo/Me	I've had a constant 500+ ping the past couple of weeks, friend of mine has constant 2000+ spikes (almost one per minute), please post if you find a solution to this.

Jan 25, 2007, 12:04 PM // 12:04	#20
the_jos Forge Runner Join Date: Jun 2006 Guild: Hard Mode Legion [HML] Profession: N/	Aun, Could be a routing problem, i'm not 100% sure about this though. You see a large spike in time after the 82.96.55.41 address in the first two traces. On the second it's 207.138.144.189. Perhaps that's something you could ask your ISP to check (send them the logs too).